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From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board)
From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,soc.men.moderated,soc.men
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,misc.writing.screenplays.moderated,misc.writing.screenplays
Subject: 3rd RFD soc.men.moderated moderated (remove) - LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Subject: 1st RFD: misc.writing.screenplays.moderated (remove)
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 17:20:21 EDT
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 17:22:18 EDT
Message-ID: <1ll2f32.tjhict1ug25hcN%board@big-8.org>
Message-ID: <1ll2j1w.an0o1d16h5qdmN%board@big-8.org>


                    3rd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group soc.men.moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
            moderated group misc.writing.screenplays.moderated (remove)


This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
newsgroup soc.men.moderated.
newsgroup misc.writing.screenplays.moderated.
 
PROCEDURE:
 
The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be
posted following the end of the voting period.
 
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to
news.groups.proposals.
 
For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/articles/p/r/o/Procedure_to_remove_newsgroups.html


NEWSGROUPS LINE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
soc.men.moderated       Men's interests, roles, rights, relationships,
misc.writing.screenplays.moderated     Craft/business of screenwriting.
etc. (Moderated)
(Moderated)


RATIONALE:
RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group do not result in bounces.
Over the past few years many of the posters to
 
misc.writing.screenplays.moderated have moved to a FaceBook group.  The
However, the last article approved by the moderators (i.e., not a
moderator feels that there is no longer sufficient interest in the
forgery) appeared in early 2008.  Recent attempts to contact some of the
newsgroup so it should be removed.  This RFD is to determine whether
moderators at their last known personal e-mail addresses resulted in
there is, in fact, enough interest to retain the group plus a qualified
replies from Graham Drabble and Mark Borgerson confirming that the
volunteer who wishes to take over the moderation.
newsgroup and the moderation team are inactive.


DISCUSSION SO FAR:
To be qualified, the volunteer should be acceptable to the community
intending to use misc.writing.screenplays.moderated and have the
technical knowledge to be able to perform the moderation duties.


Turin Turambar posted to news.groups.proposals on March 19th, 2014 in
Note:  The group is currently shows a great deal of Usenet and Email
article <lgb4pl$14r$1@dont-email.me> expressing interesting in retention
spam.  A candidate to take over the moderation should, in addition to
of the newsgroup and in assuming the role of moderator.  After
the moderation policy listed in the charter below, plan to use implement
consideration of the questions and suggestions posted by the proponent
measures to reduce/eliminate the spam.
the same day in followup article <532a35e2$0$22482$740e82cd@novia.net>,
Turin Turambar withdrew his interest in becoming moderator on March 20,
2014 in followup article <lgdsmf$rj9$1@dont-email.me>.
 
No one has followed up to rebut the basic finding of fact of the
Moderator Vacancy Investigation that the soc.men.moderated newsgroup has
been dead for several years and is unlikely to be resurrected by the
original moderation team.  No other volunteers have stepped forward to
take over moderation of the soc.men.moderated newsgroup.


DISTRIBUTION:
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
news.groups.proposals
soc.men.moderated
misc.writing.screenplays.moderated
soc.men
misc.writing.screenplays


CHARTER:
CHARTER: misc.writing.screenplays.moderated


The newsgroup soc.men.moderated is for discussion of various men's
The misc.writing.screenplays.moderated newsgroup is open to discussion
issues. This charter is meant to encompass a wide variety of topics,
of the art and business aspects of writing screenplays for feature
including but not limited to: men's health, fitness, relationships,
films, documentaries and television. Specific topics may include but are
rights, responsibilities, education, sports, and more. Posters are
not limited to:
expected to maintain a basic tone of civility.


In general, crossposting to soc.men.moderated is prohibited.  Infrequent
  Finding an Agent
administrative crossposts (eg. RFDs, FAQs) may occasionally be allowed
  Querying Production Companies
at the sole discretion of the moderators.
  Latest formatting trends
  Creative screenplay writing
  Screenwriting software
  Screenwriting books
  Screenwriters, their skills and styles
  Tools available to the screenwriter
  Collaboration issues
  Tips from the pros


Appropriate topics for discussion might include (but are not limited
Moderation policies:
to):


  * Men's medical issues.
The purpose of the proposed moderation is not to escape from the
  * Education of men and boys.
meandering and conversational tone of misc.writing.screenplays, but to
  * Men's fitness.
eliminate the excessive abuse of the newsgroup by cross-posters from
  * The roles, rights and responsibilities of fathers.
unrelated groups. The intention is to implement robo-moderation,
  * Perceptions of men in the media.
eliminating all cross-posts except the few that are appropriate.
  * Men's roles in dating and marriage.
Cross-posts to groups such as news.groups, news.announce.newgroups and
  * Divorce and child custody issues.
news.announce.newusers will be allowed unless these groups become the
  * The roles of nature and nurture in sex differences.
vehicle for serial-cross-posting by trolls.
  * Gender discrepancies in law and society.
  * All aspects of professional and amateur sports in which men
    participate.


This newsgroup is moderated.
The moderators reserve the right to filter posts from individuals who
already have a history of off-topic cross-posting, and who simply alter
their techniques to single-posting off-topic articles, or who attempt to
flood the group, or who alter their posting headers to simulate approved
status.


The following are prohibited and could lead to having such prohibited
PROCEDURE:
posts rejected by the moderator and/or banning of the poster:


  * Personal advertisements.
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
  * Commercial advertisements and money-making schemes.
should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the
  * Chain letters.
relevant threads in that newsgroup. To this end, the followup header of
  * Posts in HTML.
this RFD has been set to news.groups.proposals.
  * EMP spam.
  * Binaries, apart from PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other
    ancillary article meta-data.
  * Personally identifying information (residential addresses, telephone
    numbers, government/vehicle identification numbers, etc.) that
    is associated with anyone other than the poster.
  * Forgery of valid e-mail addresses.
  * Unauthorized approval headers.
  * Excessive morphing/nym-shifting.
  * Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats.
  * Content advocating acts which would intrinsically be illegal in
    most places, with the exception of legitimate civil disobedience.
  * Insulting or making personal attacks on another poster of the
    newsgroup.
  * Gender-based, race-based, or sexual-orientation-based bashing of
    groups and/or individuals.
  * Copyright violations.  Pointers to news articles, blogs, etc. on
    this topic are welcome but are required to comply with fair use
    standards.


The moderators reserve the right to edit or reject submissions as they
For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see
deem necessary to minimize their legal liability.
http://big-8.org/w/index.php/Procedure_to_remove_newsgroups


HISTORY OF THE GROUP: 
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
news.groups.proposals.


The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 18 Aug 2006 initiated a five-day
CHANGE HISTORY:
period for final comments.  Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board decided by a vote to create the moderated group
soc.men.moderated, as announced in article <1156622780.16269@isc.org>
posted on 30 Aug 2006.
 
The vote was 4 in favor, 0 opposed, 2 abstain.  2 members did not vote.
 
This group was created on 30 Aug 2006.  It had modest article posting
activity until about January of 2008, after which no further articles
appeared.
 
PROPONENT: Paul W. Schleck <pschleck@novia.net>


CHANGE HISTORY:
3 May 2014: 1st RFD (remove)


18 March 2014:  Moderator Vacancy Investigation
--
1 April 2014:  RFD (remove)
Kathy Morgan, Chairman
15 April 2014:  2nd RFD (remove)
Big 8 Management Board
3 May 2014:      LCC


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From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,misc.writing.screenplays.moderated,misc.writing.screenplays
Subject: 1st RFD: misc.writing.screenplays.moderated (remove)
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 17:22:18 EDT
Message-ID: <1ll2j1w.an0o1d16h5qdmN%board@big-8.org>

                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
            moderated group misc.writing.screenplays.moderated (remove)

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
newsgroup misc.writing.screenplays.moderated.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:
misc.writing.screenplays.moderated      Craft/business of screenwriting.
(Moderated)

RATIONALE:
Over the past few years many of the posters to
misc.writing.screenplays.moderated have moved to a FaceBook group.  The
moderator feels that there is no longer sufficient interest in the
newsgroup so it should be removed.  This RFD is to determine whether
there is, in fact, enough interest to retain the group plus a qualified
volunteer who wishes to take over the moderation.

To be qualified, the volunteer should be acceptable to the community
intending to use misc.writing.screenplays.moderated and have the
technical knowledge to be able to perform the moderation duties.

Note:  The group is currently shows a great deal of Usenet and Email
spam.  A candidate to take over the moderation should, in addition to
the moderation policy listed in the charter below, plan to use implement
measures to reduce/eliminate the spam.

DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
misc.writing.screenplays.moderated
misc.writing.screenplays

CHARTER: misc.writing.screenplays.moderated

The misc.writing.screenplays.moderated newsgroup is open to discussion
of the art and business aspects of writing screenplays for feature
films, documentaries and television. Specific topics may include but are
not limited to:

   Finding an Agent
   Querying Production Companies
   Latest formatting trends
   Creative screenplay writing
   Screenwriting software
   Screenwriting books
   Screenwriters, their skills and styles
   Tools available to the screenwriter
   Collaboration issues
   Tips from the pros

Moderation policies:

The purpose of the proposed moderation is not to escape from the
meandering and conversational tone of misc.writing.screenplays, but to
eliminate the excessive abuse of the newsgroup by cross-posters from
unrelated groups. The intention is to implement robo-moderation,
eliminating all cross-posts except the few that are appropriate.
Cross-posts to groups such as news.groups, news.announce.newgroups and
news.announce.newusers will be allowed unless these groups become the
vehicle for serial-cross-posting by trolls.

The moderators reserve the right to filter posts from individuals who
already have a history of off-topic cross-posting, and who simply alter
their techniques to single-posting off-topic articles, or who attempt to
flood the group, or who alter their posting headers to simulate approved
status.

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the
relevant threads in that newsgroup.  To this end, the followup header of
this RFD has been set to news.groups.proposals.

For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see
http://big-8.org/w/index.php/Procedure_to_remove_newsgroups

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
news.groups.proposals.

CHANGE HISTORY:

3 May 2014:  1st RFD (remove)

-- 
Kathy Morgan, Chairman
Big 8 Management Board
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