Nan:2012-11-17-rfd-comp.sys.apple2.comm

From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.apple2.comm
Subject: 3rd RFD: Remove comp.sys.apple2.comm - FINAL CALL FOR COMMENTS
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:16:51 EST
Message-ID: <1ktp830.1fiuara9t0glkN%board@big-8.org>

     THIRD REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)/LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
     to remove the unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.apple2.comm.

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated
newsgroup comp.sys.apple2.comm.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.sys.apple2.comm    Apple II data communications.

DISTRIBUTION:

        news.announce.newgroups
        news.groups.proposals
        comp.sys.apple2
        comp.sys.apple2.comm

PROPONENT: D. Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com>

CHARTER:

        === 
        === CHARTER:  comp.sys.apple2.comm (unmoderated) 
        === 

        The original proposal called for the "comp.sys.apple2.bbs" 
        newsgroup.  The new name is offered here as a more accurate 
        alternative.  Topics suitable for discussion in csa2.comm
        include (but are not limited to):

        1. Telecommunications software (ProTERM, ANSITerm, ZLink, TIC,
        etc.) 
        2. Bulletin board software (METAL/FutureVision, ProLine, Warp
        Six, GBBS Pro, Prime, etc.) 
        3. Online services (GEnie, CompuServe, America Online, etc.) 
        4. Telecommunications hardware (high-speed modems, building
        cables, selecting a serial card, etc.) 
        5. Networking (AppleShare, LocalTalk, Ethertalk, CAP, etc.) 
        6. Cross-platform connectivity (IBM-to-Apple,
        Apple-to-Macintosh, Apple-to-UNIX via UUCP, etc.) 

       This proposal also calls for the merging of the "a2bbs" mailing 
       list, currently maintained by Doug Granzow on the ProLine BBS
        network system.  Creation of csa2.comm will expand the
        distribution of this popular mailing list (over 100 readers) to
        the Usenet domain. 

RATIONAL FOR REMOVAL:

        Posting volume had dropped to little more than two FAQ posts per
        month since 2007. FAQ posting ceased in December 2010 and the
        group had 2 posts in all of 2011 one of which was off-topic, and
        2 posts so far for this year, both of which were off-topic.

        Discussions of Apple II systems and software can take place in
        the main comp.sys.apple2 newsgroup, which has a far wider
        readership and posting volume. As the catch-all newsgroup for
        the Apple II, all on-topic posts in csa2.comm would also be
        on-topic for comp.sys.apple2.

        Whereas the rise of broadband Internet has all but extinguished
        the use of modems and telehpone-based communications, and being
        that the Apple II computer system is obsolete, it is improbable
        that the volume of on-topic discussions will ever increase in
        comp.sys.apple2.comm.

DISCUSSION SO FAR:

        There has been one post supporting the removal of this newsgroup
        from Linards Ticmanis. Message-ID:
        <507dd6ef$0$6547$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net>

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

        comp.sys.apple2.comm is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed
        its vote for creation by 259:38 as reported in
        news.announce.newgroups on 28 May 1993.

        For your newsgroups file: 

        comp.sys.apple2.comm            Apple II data communications.

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
should subscribe to news:news.groups.proposals and participate in the
relevant threads in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to 
news.groups.proposals.

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to 
news.groups.proposals.

If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure
that all
discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.

For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see 
http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Removing_newsgroups

History of this RFD:

2012-11-17: LCC
2012-10-26: Revised for 2nd RFD
2012-10-16: Initial proposal