Nan:2006-06-12-prograph-lcc

From: Vito Kuhn <vitokuhn@family-usenet.com>
Subject: 2nd RFD: remove comp.lang.prograph (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.lang.prograph
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:26:11 -0700

                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                       remove comp.lang.prograph

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated
Usenet newsgroup comp.lang.prograph.


PROCEDURE:

The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted
following the end of the voting period.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

The full (draft) group removal procedure is documented here:

  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup


RATIONALE: comp.lang.prograph

This newsgroup hasn't seen any significant traffic in years.  In the past
12 months alone, the group didn't even see ONE on-topic post.

Scan results from http://netscan.research.microsoft.com :

  http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q46B1592D

It's clear that comp.lang.prograph is an ideal candidate for removal.


EXISTING CHARTER: comp.lang.prograph

Any and all discussion about Prograph, a unique visual object-oriented
dataflow programming language.

What is Prograph?: Prograph is a complete programming language and
environment that uses visual elements to describe objects and
functions -- there is no textual syntax -- and it has its own
interpreter and compiler.  After over five years of availability on
the Apple Macintosh, Prograph is moving cross-platform with versions
for Windows and several Unices currently in testing.  The most recent
version of Prograph, Prograph CPX, contains a cross-platform
application framework class library and high-level GUI builder.
Prograph will also have the ability to generate C++ code which will be
compilable under gcc linked to a set of compatibility classes on a
wide variety of platforms.

What about Prograph Source Code?: Prograph source code should not be
loaded onto the usenet system, as it tends to be large.  Instead,
there is a Prograph file archive maintained at ftp.iup.edu in the
info-prograph directory where files can be uploaded and downloaded via
anonymous ftp.  For those without ftp access, an info-prograph-sources
mailing list can be established.  alt.sources.mac also lists Prograph
code as one of its legal posting types.

END CHARTER.


NOTE: This group was originally gated to a mail list when it was created
in 1994: Info-Prograph  <info-prograph@grove.iup.edu>



DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

   news.announce.newgroups
   news.groups
   comp.lang.prograph


PROPONENT:

Vito Kuhn <vitokuhn@family-usenet.com>


CHANGE HISTORY:

2006-06-06      LCC prepared.
2006-05-31      RFD prepared for posting.
2006-05-25      RFD prepared by Vito Kuhn.