Nan:2013-02-23-rfd-rec.radio.noncomm

From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,rec.radio.info,rec.radio.noncomm
Subject: 3rd RFD: Remove rec.radio.noncomm - LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:57:34 EST
Message-ID: <1kyqm31.1r27or51ezzupsN%board@big-8.org>

     THIRD REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)/LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
     to remove the unmoderated newsgroup rec.radio.noncomm.

Newsgroups Line:
Topics relating to noncommercial radio.

Distribution:
       news.announce.newgroups
       news.groups.proposals
       rec.radio.info
       rec.radio.noncomm

       The proponent will also post pointers to this RFD to:

       alt.radio.broadcasting
       alt.radio.college
       alt.radio.networks.npr
       rec.radio.broadcasting (Moderated)

Proponent: Paul W. Schleck <pschleck@novia.net>

Charter:

rec.radio.noncomm       unmoderated discussion of noncommercial radio.

     Subjects discussed might include
     - non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety
     - carrier current and cable based radio
     - do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?
     - upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of Broadcasters/BEA
       meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate Broadcasters Society
       in NY
     - the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The
       Public Radio Expansion Task Force
     - the FCC and its regulations
     - obtaining and managing non-commercial grants

Rationale for removal:

A low-volume newsgroup for many years, activity on rec.radio.noncomm has
recently diminished to just an arguably off-topic periodic bulletin with
a subject of "Top 10 Dance Chart", that does not appear to correspond to
any current programming on any radio station or network, that is also
widely and indiscriminantly crossposted to many other radio and music
newsgroups.  The last two on-topic posts to the newsgroup were on
September 15, 2010 and May 4, 2007.  The last two on-topic posts to the
newsgroup that generated on-topic followup discussion were on March 19,
2007 and July 30, 2005.  Therefore, there have been no on-topic posts
without followup discussion in over two years, no on-topic posts with
followup discussion in over five years, and judging from the minimal
on-topic posting history over at least the last ten years, there is no
realistic chance of significant on-topic activity returning.

Discussion so far:

There has been one post opposing the removal of this newsgroup from
Scott Dorsey in Message-ID <ke0rr7$ji3$1@panix2.panix.com>.

In response to Scott Dorsey, Bobb Rudd asked what perceived future need
was foreseen for rec.radio.noncomm in Message-ID
<kk89g8d6eq0t31ng31rgahr18399hdh1b9@4ax.com>.  No reply was posted.

History of the Group:

       rec.radio.noncomm is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its
       vote for creation by 143:30 as reported in
       news.groups on March 21, 1990.

       For your newsgroups file:
       rec.radio.noncomm        Topics relating to noncommercial radio.

       The charter, culled from the call for votes:
       rec.radio.noncomm  unmoderated discussion of noncommercial radio.

       Subjects discussed might include
       - non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety
       - carrier current and cable based radio
       - do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?
       - upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of
         Broadcasters/BEA meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate
         Broadcasters Society in NY
       - the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The
         Public Radio Expansion Task Force
       - the FCC and its regulations
       - obtaining and managing non-commercial grants

Procedure:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
should subscribe to news:news.groups.proposals and participate in the
relevant threads in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
news.groups.proposals.

If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure
that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.

For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Removing_newsgroups

History of this RFD:

2013-02-26: LCC - Also updated discussion so far
2013-01-26: Revised for 2nd RFD - Added additional pointer newsgroups
2013-01-16: Initial proposal