Nan:2010-04-19-rfd-soc.religion.christian.bible-study
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From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
Subject: RFD: soc.religion.christian.bible-study moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:03:37 EDT
Message-ID: <hqht5r$f4p$1@news.albasani.net>
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group soc.religion.christian.bible-study
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup soc.religion.christian.bible-study.
RATIONALE:
On 2010-02-01 Stephen Adams posted his resignation to the group.
No post was approved since then.
Message-ID: <C89524E6-E994-3C3D-0B38-0E31C489D5B6@art.srcbs.org>
A probe post to this group resulted in a bounce.
bible@srcbs.org
(generated from soc-religion-christian-bible-study@moderators.isc.org)
retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period
In news.groups.proposals Stephen Adams further explained that it was
the disuse of the group that led to his decision.
Message-ID: <hnudbk0fdl@news5.newsguy.com>
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
soc.religion.christian.bible-study Examining the Holy Bible. (Moderated)
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
soc.religion.christian.bible-study
soc.misc
CHARTER OF SOC.RELIGION.CHRISTIAN.BIBLE-STUDY
The newsgroup, soc.religion.christian.bible-study, is proposed for the
discussion of the Bible. For the purposes of this group, the definition of
"the Bible" will be as follows:
All books considered to be canonical (i.e. in the Bible) by any
major Jewish or Christian group. In particular, this includes the
66 books in the "Authorized" or "King James" version of the Bible,
which includes the Jewish canon (or Tanakh - determined by the
council of Jamnia), plus those books and sections recognized by the
Roman Catholic Church at the Council of Trent (also known as the
"deuterocanonical books"), plus those additional books recognized
by the Orthodox Churches.
This does not include works of the Book of Mormon, _Science and
Health_, or the Qur'an. While some groups consider these books
to also be the word of God, they treat them seperately from "the
Bible".
Other works, generally known as apocryphal, such as the Gospel of Thomas,
the Qumran texts, Nag Hammadi, Enoch, etc..., shed interesting light and
will be considered to be "on topic" for the purposes of this newsgroup, but
they will not be allowed to dominate the group since they are not the main
focus of this newsgroup. Books which were part of previous canon lists,
such as the Shepherd of Hermas and the Didache, are welcome topics of
discussion, as are discussions of canonicity, so long as they do not devolve
into denominational flame wars.
This is a discussion about the Bible and it is not limited to any specific
denominational position. This group will be moderated.
The proposed guidelines are as follows:
o Postings which are blatantly off-topic will be rejected.
This is construed to mean "How do I get Lemmings to work
on my WizBangoClone?", but not "How do I get my Bible Search
Program to work on my MacMCMLXI?"
o Postings which are overly abusive of another person (whether
that person is on the net or not) will be returned for
rephrasing. This means that "Jason is a mindless twit" will
be rejected, but "I don't see how Jason can say this after
agreeing in post <madeup@weirdsite.org> that..." will not.
o Postings which attack denominational beliefs (whether directed
towards an individual or not) will be rejected. This should
NOT be construed to limit discussion to these topics but the
writer should exercise great care so as to present the issues as
fairly and calmly as possible, without resorting to "all the foos
are idiots".
o Postings which are better suited for other newsgroups (such
as the "flame sinks" of talk.abortion and talk.origins or the
more general groups of soc.religion.christian or talk.religion.
misc) will be guided there. This will require somewhat of a fine
line. For example, discussions of exegetics of Genesis will touch
on talk.origins territory. So long as they stay in the realm of
biblical exegetics or study, they are germane to soc.religion.
christian.bible-study. When they stray into issues of dating, or
the geological record, they may be shunted towards talk.origins.
This is not to say that such topics are always out of line, but
that the scope of this newsgroup will be limited to biblical
issues.
o Similarly, since the Bible assumes God's existence, postings
debating this topic will be guided to one of the general
religion groups. (Postings are not required to assume a
particular position on God's existence, however.) Discussions
regarding the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus will be allowed,
however, as long as they do not degenerate to attacks on personal
beliefs.
o Discussions which have degenerated into "is so" "is not" chains
can be cut off or more tightly monitored for signal/noise
ratios at the moderator's discretion.
o Posting must include complete sources of information for the
convenience of others. Verse citations must include the bible
designation (i.e. NIV, NKJV, NASB, etc...). Standard abbreviations
can be found in the FAQ on that subject. Citations from scholarly
or devotional works should include the author, title, publisher and
date of publisher, and page numbers, if possible. The minimum info
required is the author and book title. The moderator may return a
posting for source citation, if warranted.
The duties of the moderator are as follows:
o To enforce the moderation guidelines given above.
o To maintain FAQ files on common discussion chains. These are
not designed to "answer" common threads, but merely to provide
those who join the group and restart a thread to be given
a recap of the most cogent statements of the various positions
without flooding the newsgroup.
o To append to each rejected posting an explanation of why it
was rejected, and any changes that would need to be made in
style, or topic, or newsgroup to be more appropriate.
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
soc.religion.christian.bible-study is a moderated newsgroup which passed
its vote for creation by 177:68 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on
11 Mar 1993.
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.
In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.
Available options for soc.religion.christian.bible-study are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group
For more information on the MVA process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-02-01 Stephen Adams posted his resignation
2010-02-27 Probe post bounced
2010-03-07 Moderator Vacancy Announcement
2010-03-21 1st RFD
2010-04-04 2nd RFD
2010-04-19 LCC
