Nan:2010-02-06-rfd-comp.windows.x.announce

From: Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.windows.x.announce moderated (remove)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:59:23 EST
Message-ID: <hkkpfv$r6k$1@news.albasani.net>


              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
              moderated group comp.windows.x.announce

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.windows.x.announce.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

  <comp-windows-x-announce@moderators.isc.org>: host
      moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550-Callout verification
      failed: 550 550 5.1.1 <kaleb@ics.com>... User unknown
      (in reply to RCPT TO command)

  kaleb@ics.com
    (generated from comp-windows-x-announce@moderators.isc.org)
    SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<kaleb@ics.com>:
    host mail-relay.ics.com [66.238.211.190]: 550 5.1.1 <kaleb@ics.com>...
    User unknown

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.windows.x.announce	X Window System announcements. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.windows.x.announce
comp.windows.x

CHARTER OF COMP.WINDOWS.X.ANNOUNCE

This group will be moderated by the staff of X Consortium, Inc.
Traffic will be limited to major X announcements, such as the
following:

  Public Review of a proposed X Consortium standard
  Adoption of a new X Consortium standard
  Upcoming public X conferences, exhibitions, or meetings
  A new release of a major public system, toolkit, or application
  A major patch or modification to X software

The moderator will reject messages on these subjects:

  Advertisements for commercial products
  Questions about anything

There is a two-way gateway between comp.windows.x.announce and the
mailing list xannounce@x.org.  Messages appearing here will also
appear on the mailing list xpert@x.org (but NOT on the newsgroup
comp.windows.x).

It is intended that traffic will be low enough that everyone with any
interest in X will subscribe.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

comp.windows.x.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 602:18 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Jun 1994.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for comp.windows.x.announce are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVI process, please see 

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2009-10-29	First probe post
2010-01-10	Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-01-24	1st RFD
2010-02-06	2nd RFD