Nan:2009-03-12-comp.lang.lisp.newlisp-rfd2
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From: Benjamin L.Russell <DekuDekuplex@Yahoo.com> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,comp.lang.lisp Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.lang.lisp.newlisp Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:55:04 EDT Message-ID: <95lhr4daphc6ppk5cpgn4lhp3f5rpdmmij@4ax.com> {SECOND} REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.lang.lisp.newlisp This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the unmoderated newsgroup comp.lang.lisp.newlisp. NEWSGROUPS LINE: For your newsgroups file: comp.lang.lisp.newlisp The newLISP programming language. RATIONALE: comp.lang.lisp.newlisp Interested in discussing an issue involving the newLISP programming language, I went looking for a Big-8 group where I could discuss topics and issues related to newLISP, but to no avail. newLISP (see http://www.newlisp.org/) is a Lisp-1 dialect of the Lisp programming language. It currently has a base of at least 346 registered users (as of Tuesday, March 10, 2009, at 11:52 AM (Tokyo time), and is a general-purpose scripting language. It comes with a fast, light, multi-tab DrScheme-style IDE (see http://www.newlisp.org/index.cgi?page=IDE) equipped with syntax highlighting and a built-in REPL. There is a "newLISP fan club" Web-based forum (see http://www.alh.net/newlisp/phpbb/) with a total of 14448 articles by 346 registered users, as of Tuesday, March 10, 2009, at 11:52 AM (Tokyo time). However, the forum is set up so that anything posted can conceivably be deleted afterwards, and requires use of a browser; however, many USENET users object to a Web-based discussion forum for programming language discussion because of the possibility of moderation. I would like to promote discussion of various issues related to the programming language newLISP on an unmoderated forum. Comp.lang.lisp covers Lisp dialects of all sorts, but has a rather Common Lisp-oriented focus. Comp.lang.scheme covers dialects of the Scheme programming language, of which newLISP is not a dialect. Comp.lang.functional covers functional programming dialects of all sorts, but much of the discussion there would be confusing to new users of newLISP, who are not aware of such differences as a Lisp-1 vs. a Lisp-2 dialect, or of a statically typed programming language vs. a dynamically typed programming language, and so forth. If created, this group would be limited to discussion of topics and issues related to the newLISP programming language, including announcements. Announcements posted on comp.lang.lisp.newlisp should include a prefix of either "[ANN]" or "[ANNOUNCE]" in the subject header. CHARTER: comp.lang.lisp.newlisp is an unmoderated group for the discussion of topics and issues related to the newLISP programming language. Topics include programming language theory, functional programming, multimedia programming, formal semantics, syntax, and any other topics related to the newLISP programming language. Posters are expected to abide by normal Usenet standards of decorum, and to ignore articles intended to disrupt the group. The usual suspects are prohibited (spam, binaries, direct advertising, etc.) PROCEDURE: For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see: http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final resolution should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads in that newsgroup. This is both a courtesy to groups in which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the best method of making sure that one's comments or criticisms are heard. All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to news.groups.proposals. If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well. We urge those who would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup to make a comment to that effect in this thread; we ask proponents to keep a list of such positive posts with the relevant message ID (e.g., Barney Fife, <4JGdnb60fsMzHA7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@sysmatrix.net>). Such lists of positive feedback for the proposal may constitute good evidence that the group will be well-used if it is created. DISTRIBUTION: This document has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.groups.proposals news.groups comp.lang.lisp comp.lang.scheme PROPONENT: Benjamin L. Russell DekuDekuplex@Yahoo.com CHANGE HISTORY: {2006-11-30 Newest version of this boilerplate} {2009-03-06 1st RFD} {2009-03-12 2nd RFD} -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." -- Matsuo Basho^