Nan:2006.05.31-prograph-rfd
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Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.prograph Subject: RFD: remove comp.lang.prograph From: Vito Kuhn <vitokuhn@family-usenet.com> Followup-To: news.groups Archive-Name: comp.lang.prograph Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:25:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1149114345.27236@isc.org> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) remove comp.lang.prograph This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.lang.prograph. RATIONALE: comp.lang.prograph This newsgroup hasn't seen any significant traffic in years. In the past 12 months alone, the group didn't even see ONE on-topic post. Scan results from http://netscan.research.microsoft.com : http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q46B1592D It's clear that comp.lang.prograph is an ideal candidate for removal. EXISTING CHARTER: comp.lang.prograph Any and all discussion about Prograph, a unique visual object-oriented dataflow programming language. What is Prograph?: Prograph is a complete programming language and environment that uses visual elements to describe objects and functions -- there is no textual syntax -- and it has its own interpreter and compiler. After over five years of availability on the Apple Macintosh, Prograph is moving cross-platform with versions for Windows and several Unices currently in testing. The most recent version of Prograph, Prograph CPX, contains a cross-platform application framework class library and high-level GUI builder. Prograph will also have the ability to generate C++ code which will be compilable under gcc linked to a set of compatibility classes on a wide variety of platforms. What about Prograph Source Code?: Prograph source code should not be loaded onto the usenet system, as it tends to be large. Instead, there is a Prograph file archive maintained at ftp.iup.edu in the info-prograph directory where files can be uploaded and downloaded via anonymous ftp. For those without ftp access, an info-prograph-sources mailing list can be established. alt.sources.mac also lists Prograph code as one of its legal posting types. END CHARTER. NOTE: This group was originally gated to a mail list when it was created in 1994: Info-Prograph <info-prograph@grove.iup.edu> PROCEDURE: As this is fairly untested ground, we have decided to discuss the unmoderation of an existing newsgroup before anything is changed. Please discuss this proposal in news.groups. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups comp.lang.prograph PROPONENT: Vito Kuhn <vitokuhn@family-usenet.com> CHANGE HISTORY: 2006-05-31 RFD prepared for posting. 2006-05-25 RFD prepared by Vito Kuhn. .