Nan:2007-04-17-comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce-lcc

From: The Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
Subject: 2nd RFD: remove comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce moderated (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure, news.announce.newgroups,
 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.war-historical, news.groups.proposals,
 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:05:08 -0500
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/

                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                 remove comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
newsgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce.


PROCEDURE:

The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted
following the end of the voting period.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.

The full group removal procedure is documented here:

  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup


SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:

No comments were received.


RATIONALE: remove comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce

The last approved was in January 2000.  For the final two years of
activity, all articles were "Internet PC Game Charts".  The Game
Charts were apparently posted and approved by their author (presumably
with consent of the regular moderator).  The last Game Chart (number
369) announced the impending launch of a web site dedicated to the
charts.

The last approval of an ordinary article was in August 1998.  There
had been a previous interruption from May 1996 to November 1996, in
which only the Game Charts had been approved.

While the group was active, approvals were roughly 1 to 2 per day,
though it appears that approvals were often batched with many occuring
on the same day.

If there is an interested person, the group could be assigned a new
moderator.  There may enough interest to justify reactivating the
group.  On the other hand, perhaps posters and readers have gotten out
of the habit of using comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce, and moved on to
web-based forums.


HISTORY: 

The newsgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce was created in April 1993
as part of a reorganization of the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.* (CSIPG)
hierarchy, that saw creation of CSIPG.announce, CSIPG.action,
CSIPG.adventure, CSIPG.flight-sim, CSIPG.rpg, CSIPG.strategic, and
CSIPG.misc (rename of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games).  Subsequently, the
following groups in the hierarchy were created CSIPG.marketplace,
CSIPG.naval, CSIPG.space-sim, CSIPG.sports, and CSIPG.wat-historical.

Approvals averaged one to two approvals per day for most of the active
period of the group (this is an average rate, since approvals were
often batches).  There was an interruption of regular approvals from
May 1996 to November 1996, and a stoppage beginning in August 1998
until the present.  During the initial interruption, and continuing
until January 2000, there were weekly posts of "Internet PC Game
Charts".  There have been no approvals of any sort since January 2000.


DISTRIBUTION:

This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups
  news.groups.proposals
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.war-historical
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure

The proponent will also post pointers to:

  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.naval
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.space-sim
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic


CHARTER:

The newsgroup line is:

comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce	Announcements for all PC gamers.

The charter (extracted from the CFV):

This moderated group is for announcements that are useful to the
entire PC computer gaming population, including but not limited to new
release announcements, software publisher news, bug information,
reviews and GAME BYTES information.  Followups will be directed to
misc or another appropriate subgroup at the moderator's discretion.


PROPONENT: 

Jim Riley <jimrtex@pipeline.com>


CHANGE HISTORY: 

2007-04-04     1st RFD
2007-04-17     2nd RFD/LCC