Nan:2007-09-28-obvious-bulk-lcc
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From: The Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org> Subject: 3rd RFD: bulk creation of "obvious" groups (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals Followup-To: news.groups.proposals Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:15:53 -0500 Organization: http://www.big-8.org/ REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) bulk creation of "obvious" groups This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the bulk creation of several Usenet newsgroups, as listed below: NEWSGROUPS: comp.phone.mobile Cellular telephones comp.phone.mobile.motorola Motorola Cell Phones comp.phone.mobile.nokia Nokia Cell Phones comp.phone.mobile.iphone Apple's iPhone comp.dcom.voice-over-ip.asterisk Open-source VOIP package comp.internet.services.blog.advocacy Which blog is best? comp.internet.services.blog.livejournal LJ blogging service and software comp.internet.services.blog.wordpress Blogging service and software comp.internet.services.google Search, Gmail, Groups, Maps, Picasa, etc comp.bittorrent Distributed file sharing over the Bittorrent protocol comp.internet.services.social.facebook Student social networking comp.internet.services.social.myspace Teenage social networking comp.internet.services.video.youtube Internet video for the masses comp.internet.services.wiki Wikis, such as Wikipedia comp.sys.vintage Unsupported computer platforms rec.autos.sport.autocross Cone course racing, solo, gymkhana rec.arts.tv.comedy Television comedies rec.arts.tv.comedy.sitcom Television situational comedies rec.arts.tv.comedy.the-office The Office, both US and UK Version rec.arts.tv.drama.damages Lawyer drama on FX with Glenn Close rec.arts.tv.drama.pushing-daisies Resurrection to solve murders rec.arts.tv.news.colbert-report The Colbert Nation rec.arts.tv.news.oreilly-factor Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor rec.media.players.portable Portable media players rec.media.players.portable.ipod Apple's iPod media players rec.media.digital.streaming Streaming video and audio rec.games.computer.civilization Sid Meier's world-building series rec.games.online.mmorpg Massive Multi-Player Online Role-Playing Games rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft World of Warcraft rec.games.video.microsoft.xbox360 Microsoft XBox360 console rec.games.video.sony.playstation3 Sony PS3 comsole rec.games.video.nintendo.wii Nintendo Wii gaming console rec.games.video.nintendo.ds Nintendo DS portable system SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION: The Board is planning to rule on this proposal in three parts: 1. Should we move forward with a plan to create "obvious" groups in bulk? (This does not constitute making a long-term policy change.) 2. Is the template charter acceptable? 3. Which groups are "obvious"? No more than 15 groups should be chosen, based on a majority vote of Board members. Note that newsgroup descriptions, and to a lesser extent newsgroup names, are still up for discussion until the control messages (if any) are sent. Also note that this LCC does not reset the previous LCC time; discussion may end shortly. PROCEDURE: The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days. Please offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting period. Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted following the end of the voting period. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals. RATIONALE: bulk creation of "obvious" groups The last few weeks/months have seen very little discussion of proposals of any kind. Rather than worry about the "why" of this, I would like to experiment with a new, "bulk" creation of newsgroups that are clearly "obvious", but do not have formal proponents or specific charters, and are uniformly unmoderated. The above-listed groups were taken from several discussions of this topic, and are not exhaustive (nor, necessarily, "obvious"); further suggestions are encouraged. This is not yet a formal process! Please participate in the discussion in news.groups.proposals both to discuss the groups listed above, and the policy decisions that stem from even discussing this kind of bulk creation. Also, updates to the charters/newsgroup descriptions can be offered until the end of the LCC process. CHARTER: (The following is a template charter, which will be set for all groups.) This newsgroup was created as part of a trial "bulk creation" newsgroup creation process, in which "obvious" newsgroups are created without specific proponents or charters. Users of this group are urged to formulate a more specific charter and/or newsgroup description for this group, and to propose them in news.groups.proposals. If this group is not used within the next 18 months, it will be removed. For more information, please refer to the FAQs posted in news.announce.newgroups. Advertising, spam, and excessive crossposting are prohibited. Messages must be plain text only (no HTML, pictures or other binaries) with the exception of X-Face headers or PGP-type signatures. Posts should be on-topic for the name of the group, subject to future interpretation by the overall group culture. DISTRIBUTION: This document has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups (moderated) news.groups.proposals (moderated) PROPONENT: Tim Skirvin <skirv@big-8.org> CHANGE HISTORY: 2007-09-14 1st RFD 2007-09-24 2nd RFD/LCC 2007-09-28 3rd RFD/LCC (corrected)