Nan:2009-12-13-lcc-comp-sys-mac-programmer-info

From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board)
Subject: 2nd RFD: Remove comp.sys.mac.programmer.info - LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:01:53 EST
Message-ID: <1jaodss.1i91cwm1bxqkztN%board@big-8.org>


       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) - LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
       Remove moderated group comp.sys.mac.programmer.info

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.sys.mac.programmer.info

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.sys.mac.programmer.info    Frequently requested information. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.sys.mac.programmer.info

PROPONENT:

Kathy I. Morgan <kmorgan@aptalaska.net>, moderator of the group

CHARTER OF COMP.SYS.MAC.PROGRAMMER.INFO:

  A moderated newsgroup for posting FAQ's, digests, convention 
  and release announcements, "columns" by developers and industry 
  insiders, contact information, reviews, bulletins and any 
  frequently requested information relating to development for 
  the Macintosh computer system.
   
  This group will be moderated by MacTech magazine 
  <csmp_info@xplain.com> with the following mandate:     
           
  Moderator's Mandate:
  --------------------
        
    The moderator will assure that all contributions get posted,
    routing those that are not appropriate to csmp.info to the
    appropriate forum, and posting a pointer to them on csmp.info.  
    The decision as to what is appropriate will be based on a 
    comp.sys.mac.programmer.info FAQ, that will contain a list of 
    acceptable types and unacceptable types of postings and a short 
    description of each.  This document will be posted monthly on 
    csmp.info and subject to revision.  Additions to the material 
    list can be made at the moderators discretion based on at least 
    four requests from separate users.  If at least four 
    separate users object to any addition, a RFD and CFV on the 
    issue will be required.  If any user objects to the moderators 
    actions, the moderator may be removed by a specific RFD and CFV 
    on this issue.  The RFD and CFV must include the name of proposed
    replacement who is willing to accept the responsibilities.

    Initially the following types of posts will be considered
    acceptable:

    [Ptr] : posts that give information pointing to the locations
            of more detailed information.  eg contact info for
            Metrowerks, lists of ftp sites with source code,
            descriptions of csmp newsgroups, etc
                    
    [FAQ] : frequently asked questions with answers.  eg how
            to use an external editor with SC++, what are
            the universal headers, how to hide the menubar, etc

    [Review] : unbiased evaluations of various programming resources.
            eg features in SC++, what was discusses at WWDC,
            what articles were in _develop_ 19 or MacTech 
            Oct '94.

    [Note] : brief announcements.  eg Symantec 7.0.4 update
            available on Sumex, MacWorld Boston Aug 5th, New
            Book by Dave Mark (Review to follow)

RATIONALE:

I took over moderation of this group in September of 2007 as a result of
an MVI after the group had been dead for some time.  Traffic was always
very light and there have been no ontopic submissions since May, 2008.

Since the 1st RFD for removal was posted on 2009-11-25, no one has
expressed any interest in the group one way or the other.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

comp.sys.mac.programmer.info is a moderated newsgroup which passed its
vote for creation by 189:25 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 1
November 1994.

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
should subscribe to news:news.groups.proposals and participate in the
relevant threads in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to 
news.groups.proposals.

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to 
news.groups.proposals.

If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure
that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.

For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see 

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup

CHANGE HISTORY:

2009-11-24      First RFD
2009-12-13      LCC